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Pistols: 5 rounds each, holstered

Shotgun: 4+ (staged on table "A")

Rifle: 10 rounds (staged on table "B")

 

Shooter is registered in Duelist category shooting Ruger Vaqueros, a Marlin 1894C carbine (both in .38spl) and a 12ga 1897 shotgun.

 

Stage description: Starting at "A" with both hands on pistol grips.

At the beep...Knock down the four shotgun targets: S1, S2, S3, S4.

 

Move to "B" Engage the four rifle targets in a 10-round "IRS/Progressive" Sweep, starting on the left.

R1, R2, R2, R3, R3, R3, R4, R4, R4, R4.

 

With revolvers, engage the five pistol targets in a 10-round "IRS/Progressive" Sweep, starting on the left.

P1, P2, P2, P3, P3, P3, P4, P4, P4, P4.

 

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At the beep, shooter knocks down the shotgun targets by sweeping from right to left.

Moves to table "B", sets O&E shotgun on table.

 

Shooter picks up rifle, first round goes "click"; shooter levers again, ejecting the first round...realizes safety is engaged; disengages safety, re-cocks rifle and engages/hits the rifle targets in the following order:

R1, R2, R2, R3, R3, R3, R4, R4, R4...shooter then reloads one round from belt loop and engages/hits R4.

Sets rifle down O&E next to shotgun on table "B"

 

Shooter draws first revolver and engages/hits P1, P2, P2, P3, then holsters first revolver as he draws & cocks the 2nd revolver. Shooter then engages/hits P3, P4, P4, P4, P4. RO then tells shooter there is an unfired round remaining in the 1st pistol. Shooter re-draws first pistol and engages/hits P3.

  

What's the call or calls?  

Please check your answer below and fill in the reasoning to support your answer.

 

            a) Minor Safety + Procedural

            b) Minor Safety + Miss

            c) Miss + Procedural

            d) Miss

            e) Procedural

 

  • The Correct answer is:  (E)  Procedural

  • Applicable Rules:

Procedural for shooting the targets "out of order".

The penalty applied as soon as the shooter put the first shot on P4 (which should have been the 3rd shot on P3)

All pistol shots HIT pistol targets = NO MISSES.

 

IF the shooter had failed to fire the last shot of the first pistol,  he would have still received a PROCEDURAL for shooting the targets out of order AND a MISS for the unfired round remaining in the revolver.

That would NOT be a case of "a Miss causing a Procedural"...it’s a case of "brain fade" and miscounting shots fired.

Since he eventually fired that round and HIT a pistol target (it doesn’t matter which target at that point, he already had the "P") he only gets the initial "P" and NO MISS.

 

Applying the "MISS FLOW CHART ":

Did the shooter hit all the correct type of targets?YES (Assess no misses)

Did the shooter engage the targets in the correct order? - NO (Assess procedural)

Range Operations Basic Safety Course (page 24)

 

Other applicable rules:

24. Ammunition dropped by a shooter in the course of loading or reloading any firearm during a stage or "ejected" is considered "dead" and may not be recovered until the shooter completes the course of fire. The round must be replaced from the shooter's person or other area as required by stage description, or if the round is not fired it is counted as a missed shot.

Shooters Handbook (page 23), Range Operations Basic Safety Course (page 17)

 

 

Procedurals are unintentional "mistakes" where the competitor engages the stage in a manner other than the way it is supposed to be shot. Procedurals are scored as ten-second additions to the competitor's raw time for the stage, no more than one per stage.

Shooters Handbook (page 18)

 

10- SECOND PENALTIES

Procedural Penalties

Any unintentional procedural errors caused by "brain fade," confusion, ignorance, or mistakes (not to exceed one for any given stage).

Failure to attempt to fire a firearm.

Failure to attempt a prop or stage maneuver.

Shooting targets in an order other than as required by stage description.

Range Operations Basic Safety Course (page 21)

 

10. Inadvertently leaving unfired rounds in a revolver is a miss unless the round is under the hammer, then it is a Stage Disqualification.

Shooters Handbook (page 13), Range Operations Basic Safety Course (page 14)